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Ma Jaya Sati Bhagavati:
Kali Natha Yoga and the Path to God

By Kali Ma Das

Ma Jaya is an American Guru in the lineage of her Guru, the very beloved Indian Saint Neem Karoli Baba. This year, Ma Jaya's portrait will be hung in the Hall of Honor at the prestigious Martin Luther King Jr. Hall of Preachers of Morehouse College, joining the images of Martin Luther King Jr., Ghandi and other bringers of world peace. Ma Jaya is a Trustee of the Parliament of the World's Religions and is founder and spiritual director of Kashi Ashram in Sebastian, Florida where she resides.

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KMD: How close is the average person to a spiritual awakening?

MA: It's an individual thing. The beauty of karma is that each karma, each moment of karma, each section of karma is completely unique in itself. It becomes very individual. The Guru comes and takes the blinders off the chela's eyes like I'm doing now, and says, “Now love me. Now follow me if I go into the war torn areas of life.” Now are you a little bit uncomfortable when I bring up the death of children, the death of life, the death of ego? And then the marriage of human beings and God starts. And the honeymoon is over. And for some it's a great and unbelievable shock.

KMD: How does Kali Natha Yoga differ from the asana practices being taught elsewhere?

MA: Hatha Yoga is very ancient. All of the yogas concentrate on the body and the mind and the soul. Kali Natha Yoga takes it one step further. Kali Natha Yoga takes from the heavens, takes from the highest point where one can be and brings it down to where one is. So you move your body in the course of the four winds. You move your body in accordance to the very ancient scriptures of the Gods and the Goddesses, but it doesn't become exclusive. Where one may put Lord Vayu, another will put Christ. Where one may put my beloved Kali, the other may put my beloved Mary. One takes their beloved and makes a liquid gold and they drink for the rest of their life which spreads through their body like a physical essence. And then life is changed, for Kali Natha Yoga is the yoga of the Mother's Heart and the Ancient Nathas. (10th century revered teachers of Hatha Yoga).

KMD: Many of your chelas (students) have been able to experience various levels of samadhi, yet still be very grounded, very productive, even driven individuals in the world outside of your ashram.

MA JAYA: One sits in front of the Himalayas in prayer, legs crossed, it's very beautiful. Why take birth to do that? The great yogi Milarepa taught from the very cave that he stayed in and he also taught to serve humanity. When you take God's gift, when you take the Mother's gift, and you bring it out into the world, you may not say “Oh I'm so gone, I have to sit, I can't move.” You must use this gift because a certain flow happens within the body. The body becomes like liquid. And if you don't give it away, it retains the ground. Then nothing new can fit in that place. You have to keep it moving, keep it moving, just like the earth goes round and round. The only way you can keep Kali Natha Yoga in motion is by giving it away, serving others. When there is need, and you have the slightest ability to fill it, you do it. This grounds you. With enough ground, you can sit and take the luxury of Nirvakalpa Samadhi. After a while, after many years, you'll have the direct instinct and wisdom to do mahasamadhi at will when your time is near to leave your body. That's what mahasamadhi is. The Nirvakalpa is the samadhi of earth, heaven and earth meeting. That's why Kashi is called paradise on earth.

KMD: Must we experience spiritual death to continue to move towards God?

MA JAYA: It's painful. Some people stop. It is very painful. I lost everything. But then I got it all back. It is very painful. The more you cling to it, the more you prefer attachment to detachment the harder time you're having.

KMD: But it cannot be avoided. It is necessary to the path.

MA JAYA: Absolutely. You can't take the earth to God and say “Please excuse this tree or that tree. I'm very attached to this, I'm very attached to that.” That's why satsang is so beautiful. Because you are all learning at the same time.

Ma, as her students call her, has dedicated her life to serving humanity, including those with HIV/AIDS and other life challenging illnesses, caring for the elderly, feeding the poor and nurturing the spiritual development of her thousands of students around the world. In Uganda, Ma's Providence Orphan's Center has been named in her honor. As a pioneer in the fight for human rights, Ma Jaya founded World Tibet Day.

Ma Jaya will teach an intensive the first weekend in April at Kashi Atlanta Ashram. For information on this and the open darshan and registration for the intensive, call 404.688.6757.


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